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The people who do this crap to pilots (or anyone else for that matter) are fucking retarded. Not sorry about the language.
Th ATC person needs to slow her speech down
this controller is a pro..
You here how scared she was. Sad.
"And thank you for taking us down this time" ... "Sho" đ
Heard over Ryan air maintenance frequency Capt that 737 needs to be in Rome in 5 min. The fire brigade told you no fire so if you evacuate on the runway you and your co-pilot will be looking for a new job after you repack the slides.
This is the ATC version of mambo number 5 :D
ATC bingo: Caroline, Cleveland, timberland, cartomant, cool land
wHaT dId i tElL yOu?
KORL is a D airspace not C or B. The B is KMCO. The issue is that just above KORL is the B space which is easy to bust if not aware
OMG - that had me rolling on the floor laughing. Boy...
Pilot: We're going to evacuate as a precaution - do you see any indication of fire? Pilot 2 hours later: I think we'll need to evacuate - do you see any indication of a fire? Pilot 4 hours later: We're going to evacuate and I'm really serious this time; are you sure there's no indication of a fire?
The pilot consistently referred to a fire indication in the wheel-well. The tower consistently referred to the undercarriage. There is a significant difference! This sort of miscommunication could be critical.
Agreed. I donât understand why the tower and fire crew need to translate the pilots words. Wheel well is clearly not wheel, tire, or undercarriage. Sheesh...
Finally, it coulnd't take the landing
Taken out of context and if I didn't know what the Bravo is... "I need you outside of the Bravo" -that's what she said "Negative, I'm inside!" -that's what he said "You were not given a clearance through the Bravo, exit the Bravo immediately" "I've been talking to you the whole time, that's the whole point of talking to you" I'm sorry
I was pilot flying that day on the Ibk1768... I can't express myself, what I saw that morning, blow up my mind. Watching this video 2 years later, is recalling the pictures of those lights on my memories
Typical Irish.. if something needs doing step back and let someone else do it.
So difficult to make a closer look
You are not allowed to fly after you are a certain no. of weeks pregnant, so either this lady was in very dire circumstances (premature birth) or lied about how far gone she was. Anyone know how this ended?
those guys on the ATC could just yell at the microphone to be louder to help the flight crew of the DAL589 to hear them better due to the high wind noise.
Leprechaun pilots and leprechaun ATC. love it. If the firefighters get out of the trucks and look in the well we are done. Jesus.
the captain should have made the co-pilot climb down using the cockpit emergency rope and check for fire/smoke.... conincidence? I was just watching this cockpit escape demonstration video last night: usfilm.info/fire/ardyhYmIecphzNA/video.html
Reminds me of the US aircraft carrier vs Spanish lighthouse story usfilm.info/fire/rM6xZn-vgo-Kzpk/video.html
Tower: 46M I have a phone number for you to call...... 46M: ahhhh yeahhhh about that..
Tower man talking to fast, delta or SW was spoken before mic was keyed. He knew similar call signs but chose to speed talk. Arrogant idiots with no common sense directing people into disaster
FF: Oh, you want us to get OUT and take a look......đ
Automatic captions turns "turntotheleft" into "turtleneck" ;-) I would do the same without context.
Woow I was surprised once he said cancel take off !!maybe if he didn't say that there will be an accident in runway
Is the date right? Simply flying quoted it as happing on the 21st
Pilots seemed to be completely incapable of taking a decision. And thatâs worrying, ngl
I might have missed something at 2:40 but did ground say he had â1,202 pound of fuel. 154 personnel on boardâ? 1,200 pounds? Heâs running on fumes. Heâs got a fuel emergency as well as a medical emergency.
Seriously the pilot sounds intoxicated!
Around 4:30 I think what they said actually was "Okay thank you very much, that's copied. That could just be the smoke from the tires that burst here, good to know anyway."
0:10 Pilot should have read that back faster. I could almost understand it. Isn't the goal total unintelligibility?
Some emergency handling is awe inspiring. This one doesnât fill me with confidence!
Huge miscommunication here. It was much too late when the crew finally said that the wheel well needed to be inspected for fire. The initial MAYDAY call correctly identified the indication, but tower and CFR did not know the difference between a landing gear/wheel fire and a wheel well fire. As far as whether there was an actual fire, the 737 NG and later engine and APU fire warning detectors are of a type which make an erroneous indication of a fire so unlikely that it can almost be discounted. If the engine or APU says fire, you have a fire. The wheel well fire detectors, however, are still of an earlier type that can, rarely, fail in such a way that a false fire indication results. The captain should have shut down the engines immediately and directed CFR to the main wheel wells. This could have been handled much better.
Why do Ryanair flight numbers include letters (for example, 8B)? Or is that all European carriers? It's not something I see in the U.S.
@Gabstra 678 Or "fifteen thirty-nine" or "fifteen twenty-nine," as the situation worsens
@Gergely CsĂ©plĆ also in America you read 4-number callsigns like this: âCactus fifteen forty-nineâ In the Europe thatâs not allowed, youâd read it as âCactus one five four ninerâ which of course is a little too long for a callsign. Adding letters allows for shorter and more practical callsigns
More likely ICAO thing, makes it easier to make the callsigns different, so less likely to get similar ones at the same time.
Quite common here in Europe. The flight number doesnât have letters (itâs a number), but the designated callsign does. In this case: Flight number: FR205 Callsign: RYR8B
why he is not declaring emergency?
Chinese government idiot paranoid like xi jin ping idiot paranoid go to hell xi jin ping
Terrifying, wow
Chinese government idiot paranoid
Why do I love the Irish accent so much
Glad they didn't evacuate, it would have been expensive for the passengers.
Much indecision here from the pilots. A faint heart never won a fare lady. Make a decision!
If I wass the pilot I would put out the one engine so one still idle so there can be a close inspection. If there is no imidiate smoke or fire visible there is time to evacuate. If there is smoke visible imidiate evacuate. But that is just me.
Is it 'mayday' or 'm'aider'?
It's Mayday .... which is a corruption of m'aider. Good to hear the Mayday acknowledged which seems to happen rarely in the USA.
That happened because ryanair always does hard and bumpy landings
Yeah, so they either evacuate for nothing and get blamed for minor injuries (sprained ankles,..) and major inconvenience. Or they taxi to the gate, starting to burn, and getting blamed for underestimating the hidden issue. And even when everything is fine, then getting blamed on youtube for the decision making process, where everyone seems to be better at shutting down engines. :-D
When did the USfilm comment section become the official aviation authority that anyone should care about?
R.I.P Captain
Did Delta 2304 really ask these guys if they followed the QRH? What a complete lack of awareness from the person who said that. F off dude!
I think the pilot waited for a moment like this to do an emergency evacuation hence all the pressure even when firefighters said no fire/smoke visible
Amazing graphics. I looked up the airport on the map and the graphics were exactly as on the map. Well done, also thanks to VASAviation. Thanks great work.
What to do here, this is a tough call. Here I think there are two equally reasonable choices, first just evacuate,; second, prepare to evacuate and get a gear-well inspection. My problem with this incident is that they did not seem to do either. Nobody would fault the crew here if they immediately started an evacuation. It would also be reasonable to configure the aircraft for an evacuation (engines off, spoilers down, flaps extended), establish communication with the cabin and wait a reasonable amount of time for an inspection. Instead, it sounds like they sat there with the engines running. Nobody is getting anywhere near the wheel-well if you have the engines running. Also contributing to the confusion was that the fire trucks/tower had a slight but significant misunderstanding of the nature of the emergency. Everybody kept talking about the landing gear but what the pilot needed to know was if there was a fire in the landing-gear WELL...similar words, but a different area of the airplane. Also, an area where you could imagine a fire that could exist and not be readily apparent from the outside.
*For those wondering why they didnât shut down the engines immediately or evacuate without losing time:* - The evacuation checklist begins with âCondition: Evacuation is neededâ. This means you must analyse the situation and decide as crew if it is needed or not. Sometimes a fire indication can be erroneous and lead to serious injury for no reason. - You would not shut down the engines without the APU running, otherwise youâd lose electric power and end up with a dark cabin. APU takes about 2 minutes to start up and stabilise. - Shutting down the engines on the runway means you are blocking the active. However, after an inspection confirming no presence of fire, you can possibly taxi off the runway. âSit on your handsâ is a wise saying in aviation - think before you act.
There should be at least 30min of emergency battery power with the engines off no?
If there was a case of 'sit on your hands' - it is definitely this situation.
I've heard that pilots try to avoid evc whenever possible for that very reason
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Are you going to be posting the UFO encounter AA had the other day? Thanks!
What an idiotic pilot. Decide and dont discuss.
I think this should be on further training to ensure pilots that this is not what to do in an emergency situation. The pilots should have shut the engines down so the fire crew can check the aircraft. The pilots also said they were going to evacuate on the runway and didn't. Good job all turned out well in the end.
Kudos to the fire trucks for approaching the aircraft from behind. Otherwise the passengers would be losing their minds!
You donât ever approach a wheel fire from the side, because when they explode it fires out to the side
Almost as good as TIRON
I'm not crying, you're crying!
Hahah amazing đđ
I thought he said "headlight" rather than "cleared to land".
Teamwork is great, except when it isn't and nobody seems to know what they are doing. Evacuate! No ... um ... can you see smoke? Evacuate! Or not. Hmmm. Evacuate! Fire trucks did you bring a thermal camera. Er, no. Why would we do that for a possible fire? I know, lets Evacuate!
lol at the pilot getting frustrated things are taking too long, yet does nothing to help...either evacuate or don't, felt like he was using it as a bargaining chip.
The pilot doesn't want to evacuate the aircraft unless it's absolutely necessary. Passengers are likely to be injured (sprained ankles and such) from going down the slides. He was ready to pull the trigger on an evacuation the moment he heard anything confirming smoke or fire, but they didn't seem to see anything. I do think he should have shut down the engines sooner, though.
shut off engines get the hell out of there , Safety First rescue was there , talk about it later
Have you ever been in an airplane evaluation? Itâs only ever used as a last resort.
1:51: " There's no smoke at all visible from your undercarriage [...] 4:32: "That could just be the smoke from the tire(s), but it's good to know anyway
Hi, can you please put up credit for my photo, my Instagram account is @euro_spotter and the original photo is there
There's a pretty good, detailed breakdown on 74 Gear of all of the mistakes this amateur pilot was making. It was interesting and shows maybe the ATC was being judged a little harshly. usfilm.info/fire/f6Z8fICwr492lrY/video.html
Better safe than sorry. Job well done by all.
Still going "boing boing boing boing" 349 km away....
I guess that delay in evacuating was caused by the extra charge they had to collect for using the emergency slides.
That fire bell sounds like my 40-year-old wind-up alarm clock. RIIINNNGGGGGGGGGGGG
I do like how they kept telling him he had a stuck mic well after he and everyone else acknowledges he has a Radio Failure... so even in real life we have those annoying pop up messages.
Great video, my friends were there that day and I believe my friends photo is in the thumbnail đ
@VASAviation - hey thanks for the heart đđ the photo is on Instagram by @euro_spotter
Who is it that I can mention him
Pilot seemed anxious, naturally with the warnings in the cockpit not going away but, the fire services and tower did inspect the A/C and no fire etc. present and kept assuring him. That is their job. The pilot was really wanting to get those slides open for business!
Do not put so much trust with what the Tower can see. It was wheel well fire alarm, the best to accurately report on it would be the rescue personnel, if they got up close to the wheel well. And we do not know if they got up in there.
As a passenger, this seemed pretty disturbing. Three minutes after the fire indication and mayday, the pilot and rescue were still figuring out what to do. Lots of confusion, lack of coordination and indecisiveness. If there had been a fire, those three wasted minutes could have been catastrophic. Or am I missing something . . . .
Not as critical as you seem to think. Evac often results in more injuries than anything. No smoke showing. That would have made the difference in how it was handled.
Literally everyone is telling him there's no fire. Pilot was getting a bit jumpy there...which is ok... better to be safe than sorry. At some point it seems like they are just trying to deescalate the pilot more than anything else. He reeeeeally wanted to evacuate that plane even after people are telling him they don't see anything. Settle down there Captain Sully.
The possibility for a hidden wheelwell fire were there, wich wouldnt necessarily be vicible from a firetruck. The correct procedure here would be for a firefighter to inspect the wheelwell.
Ryanair get some proper slack but it's never justified. But you have to give it to them - the flight crew were very professional in this instance. Controlled and safe, top job. đ
I'm sorry, but the flight crew were exceptionally poor in this case. No decisive action was taken, one pilot kept saying they were going to evacuate, and yet they ended up taxiing in to stand under their own power.
Far from it. The RyanAir crew handled this terribly and if there was a fire, many would have been needlessly injured.
Yes, controlled indecisiveness.
How badly did he land that it took 45minutes to clear? It's a runway not Iraq.